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Post by Alastor on Aug 4, 2012 0:11:33 GMT -8
OH FUCK, NOT AGAIN. Yes, we're having another one of these. I'll try to be less wordy than last time, however: HWYCA guys, I know you're having fun and I'm happy that your thread has done so well, but I'm more than a little worried about how few of you are going outside of the thread. While this is better then before, where we literally were too small to be a wasteland, it's still rather bad- if you look as an outsider, the only really active members are JW%, Anya, Penny, Corte, Prime, and myself. Now, I'm not going to say it's the game's fault, and I understand you guys have lives and such, but it's not exactly good that you're all in one thread. War of Farndis: Sci-fi/Fantasy robot game, heavily based off of The Five-Star Stories (and some of the what-the-fuckery that implies), with small amounts of Aura Battler Dunbine and RahXephon. Takes place in the world of Farndis, a fantasy world unlike that of Earth. Focuses on a small group of Knights and Faitul, pilots of the biological mecha called Ensongs, traveling the land. The game moves slow, but has a large, detailed setting that's constantly being added upon. Mother Goose's Academy for Untrained Tales: Horror/School/Nursery Rhymes. Simply put it's a school of horrors game with a nursery rhyme theme. Takes a page or two from Jabberwocky School for the Dreamers from the old RPU, should you remember it.
(Not) a Rebuild of Evangelion OOC: Drama/Sci-Fi mecha game. Basic Evangelion RPG based off of an Adeptus Evangelion campaign that never happened. Would have been a lighter-ish take on the TV series, with a few tweaks to the setting.
X Academy VS Twilight Invaders: Superhero/Crossover. Anti-Twilight game about Bella and such invading the Marvel Universe, focusing on originals for the X-Men.
Around the World in 100 Days: Roadtrip/Comedy. Inspired by Scott Pilgrim, it's about a group of friends traveling the world in order to win a prize.
Eternal Tournament G-Ender: Action/Mecha game. Major send up to Mobile Fighter G Gundam, Giant Robo The Animation, and Brave Raideen. Made this in like an hour, so it's not the best of games, but it's likely to be fun.
Strange Happenings- A SlenderStory: Horror game. It's a Slenderman/Creepypasta story about a group of people, all of whom were involved in an accident a year before, in a mysterious town, with messages from a man calling himself Dime warning them of the Slenderman...
Triumph City: Slice of life/Superhero game. Follows the day-to-day lives of the superheroes in the titular city. Pretty simple game using the Classic Marvel RP system, lots of fun.
The Nexura Wars: Fantasy/War. I'm not sure about this one- seems to be about a variety of fantasy worlds waging war with each other after finding a portal to Nexura. Seems interesting.
Slice-of-Survival - A Zombie Apocalypse Roleplay: Horror/Slice-of-Life. It's... pretty telling from the title. Zombie apocalypse. You play survivors living a Winnebago. Uses modified rules from the tabletop RP Boot Camp.
Darkstalkers: Underworld Warrior: Action. Based off of the Darkstalkers series of Arcade fighting games. Like the games, it's crazy monster fights- the game! Takes place after Darkstalkers 3: Jedah's Damnation, in a fracture of the Majigen- city with his Chaos Tower- with the titular Darkstalkers battling each other.
Reclaim the name “Edward”!: Crossover. About the various Edwards of the multiverse(s) making sure Edward Cullen and Friends win any games in a silly contest of games.
Final Galaxy Ship Aleson: Sci-Fi/Drama/Romance mecha game. Taking cues from The Super Dimension Fortress Macross (as well as some of the sequels), and to much lesser extents Armored Troopers VOTOMS and Vandread, it follows the crew and civilians of the colonization ship Aleson as they make a trek back home after ending up on the other end of the galaxy to assist with an invasion by an alien lifeform called Xenosaurs. On board the Aleson are the Exodus mecha, which were designed to battle the Xenosaurs. While on the trek home, the ship finds itself caught up in a millennium long war between the Densone and Utusone, the fractured genders of the Atsone race. It's a massive homage to Macross.
I'm pretty sure I missed a few games, but still. And if you're not interested in these games... Why not make your own? Pitch a genre or a few ideas you like? It's not like the others will eat you probably- in fact, the majority of them are pretty friendly. So... yeah. Let's try to get some discussion going on making/joining more games.
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Post by Adlai Stevenson on Aug 4, 2012 0:25:51 GMT -8
All we are saaaaayiiiiing
Is give our RPs a chaaaaaaance
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Post by Alastor on Aug 4, 2012 0:29:13 GMT -8
Anyone have an extra pair of sides? I busted mine, just now.
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Post by samedi on Aug 4, 2012 0:50:19 GMT -8
Same thing as before. Some of us are in enough RP's as it is, and don't wish to join any others. At least I don't.
That and I don't really like the DnD type stuff that goes on around here.
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Post by Penny Royals on Aug 4, 2012 1:00:02 GMT -8
^Though there's a whole lot more than just that... ._.
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Post by samedi on Aug 4, 2012 5:27:36 GMT -8
Aye, and none of it has really caught my interest. Once again, some of us don't join the other rps because we're already in other stuff. Some people don't want to have jump into a random rp when they're already invested in others.
And some people don't want to be told they have to engage in other rps.
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Post by lovely corte on Aug 4, 2012 5:33:18 GMT -8
I for one like to jump into as many roleplays as possible.
What I don't like is being told that Female Friendly porn is pretty much the same as Yuri. I mean, don't fuck with my cock like that.
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Post by Little Death on Aug 4, 2012 6:29:09 GMT -8
I think what Al is trying to say is that while it's great that you're all having fun with your threads, sooner or later the RPU is going to crash and burn if there is only a small handful of members even participating in a small number of threads.
Yes, it's great that you're all investing your time in the threads you have going, but Al's right. It doesn't shine positive light on the RPU if the activity is this low. Take it from someone who knows what happens when an entire RP forum only has four to five members posting in a max of three threads. It gets slow, real slow and the forum doesn't get enough activity like it should.
So, sorry. I'm with Al when I ask you all, very kindly, to at least consider joining new threads or help make the RPU something greater.
Much Love.
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Post by samedi on Aug 4, 2012 7:03:33 GMT -8
A clearer point. Noted, but I make no promises.
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Post by lovely corte on Aug 4, 2012 7:23:58 GMT -8
Yes, but on another note, some people don't have the spare time to post in multiple forums.
I've got a shitload of spare time, so I go on a shitload of forums. On another note, someone could have work, study, university. Honestly, I don't really think this is something we can really pin down in one thread, It's more of an IRL factors. Or laziness.
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Post by Prime Spinosaur on Aug 4, 2012 8:02:36 GMT -8
Yeah, no.
I'm sorry. But we HAVE joined other RPs, hell, Pichu's making a profile for Triumph City. Corte here has joined a number of RPs and I've contributed a lot to the RPU as well. Anya has as well. The only members not active really in other RPs are Maverikdemon, because, well, he's not on a whole lot and probably has a very busy life, and Samedi's not interested. You can't force someone to be interested in something.
You forgot Rei too, who's taken the effort to join an RP outside of HWYCA herself recently.
That's more than half of the HWYCA members spreading outward into other RPs.
You can't put all of the blame on us, just because we had ONE active night. If you hadn't noticed, HWYCA has been infrequent as of late as well.
I joined the Evangelion RP (which I am waiting for you to kick off), I've joined Triumph City, I even decided to create a new RP.
Stop shoulder all of the blame onto HWYCA. Before, I could see where you could get the idea that HWYCA was causing a mass amount of inactivity in the RPU, but now you're just being silly. The RPU is alive, more than I've seen it in a long time. But that's not good enough? We've made so much progress since the last time you pointed the finger at HWYCA, there are actually other RPs than HWYCA with people actually posting in them.
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Post by lovely corte on Aug 4, 2012 8:09:12 GMT -8
This.
Now let's touch our tips.
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Post by Darth Pichu on Aug 4, 2012 8:13:23 GMT -8
Guh. You know... I've typed up a profile for Triumph City AND for Nexura Wars about 3 times and haven't posted because I'm about the easiest person to distract on the face of the earth.
I know not all of us are incredibly active (And I'll certainly become more active), but as for the others, it's awfully hard to require activity from other members. The RPU is recovering. That's all we can ask for.As for the other members who do HWYCA, some people will, some people won't. And all things considered, a good number of our members who are still active DO participate in other RPs. In fact, the only ones who don't are Rei, Samedi, Blue and myself. Rei is active on several other forums and as such isn't interested in joining many more at the time, I WILL join more once my brain stops being ADD as fuck, and Samedi has stated his reason for not joining already. As for the others, Maverikdemon is away on a military tour right now I believe and doesn't have much time for RP (naturally) and Brandon has drifted away from the RPU altogether.
All things considered, even with the rest of our members participating that's just about four or so extra players. Is it a good extra boost? Sure. Will it save an entire community? Those four RPers had better be gods of their craft if it will.
I'm just saying, while I get the concern, and while I'll gladly make some changes in my own RPing habits, I really don't think that calling out other RPers and giving a 'you must play with us or you die' ultimatium is the right way to go about stimulating activity on the forums.
And so far as I can see your topics ARE active. A whole lot more active than HWYCA is right now. Checking back at any time I can almost ASSUREDLY see Triumph City or War of Farndis with the top post. The posters who aren't posting much in other RPs also aren't posting a whole lot period anymore. And honestly, posting an entire topic just to get three or so people to post more who don't really post as much anyway is... well... a bit of overkill if you ask me.
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Post by Adlai Stevenson on Aug 4, 2012 8:40:10 GMT -8
Okay, the basis of this argument seems to stem from, as Darth Pichu so poetically put it, Which by all terms is a vast exaggeration. Then again, this is /ts/, it wouldn't be a polite point without throwing in some harsh terms that have nothing to do with it. Nobody here is saying you're going to be punished for not joining non-HWYCA RPs. If anything, it's punishment for members like Warrior of Light and myself; when the most activity from the RPU stems from HWYCA, it essentially limits our standard-issue produced RPs elsewhere on the board. It creates this invisible borderline that creates this 'Us VS Them' mentality I'm picking up from a lot of you. So, while HWYCA thrives without much ado, our RPs, with a standard of three people that join, putter along at a snail's pace, if any puttering is done at all. So, the request is pretty simple, and it doesn't strike me as some cataclysmic violation of any of your personal freedoms (that Zax and his goons haven't already done, that is), and once again, this is not an '--OR FACE EXECUTION' thing, so do us a favor and stop misconstruing it in such a way. You don't like some of the RPs that are up? We have a suggestion box thread, dude. Don't want to go through the effort of that? Make your own RP, chances are someone will be interested. Don't want to RP with anyone else but your clique? Well, don't be surprised if this happens again. I'm going to say it again, since it probably bears repeating: nobody is forcing you into this. If you feel discriminated, well, I'll call up the ACLU and an ambulance for your rectal damage. See Corte? I can make body humor too
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Post by Prime Spinosaur on Aug 4, 2012 9:05:42 GMT -8
Okay, I think you guys are mistaking the about of thread pages for acticity. HWYCA has been around for years, and only just recently, as in, last night, did it spike up in activity again.
In fact, Triumph City, has been more prosperous this summer than HWYCA, in my opinion.
How the hell does HWYCA impair your RP experiences? I-just. I'm still trying to understand the logic behind it. We aren't stopping you from posting RPs, we've joined them. Almost all of us without an alibi have. We're not interested in every single last RP you're going to post, but we are making efforts to join and make separate RPs.
Please, go into detail as to HOW HWYCA is impairing your experience? How are we to blame? Are we stopping you from posting?
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Post by Darth Pichu on Aug 4, 2012 9:14:58 GMT -8
Listen, I said I'm sorry for being a spaz and letting the three times I made a profile for other RPs on this forum go because I either thought the character wasn't right or was going to get a 'you're using that lot AGAIN' kind of reaction. I'm pretty easy to distract and I'm sorry I am.
But yes, it does feel like there's an invisible line now that the people who are active on HWYCA have been called out twice for... I guess not being active enough in other RPs. Because it's made me feel incredibly uncomfortable here. Every time I hear the name HWYCA being mentioned like it's a bad word, it just makes me feel like it's our fault the RPU isn't thriving. I know maybe it's not supposed to be construed that way, but it makes me feel like it rides on us to make roleplays for everyone to join in on, and to be able to supply endless plots and help to plots wherever it turns up.
And honestly, when topics like these come up, it kinda just makes me want to hide. Honestly it makes me feel rather insecure when these sorts of things come up, especially when nobody just contacts me about them. Now I know I'm still being watched, and so are some of my friends here. I don't resent it entirely, but, it does make me feel pretty lousy. when I saw the RPU as it was I thought it was doing rather well. Recovery is going to be a long process. We're not just going to have an RPU that gets constant replies all the time because we willed it to be so.
So... I'm sorry I suck you guys. I don't really know what else to say.
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Post by Penny Royals on Aug 4, 2012 10:25:50 GMT -8
Okay, if I may give a shoddy attempt at mediation...
I think, maybe, just a list of RPU members is in order. I think Al and a few of us have been thinking that there are many more members of the HWYCA thread than there are, and that's what's been causing all this.
As well, I don't think he meant to offend with leaving a few of you (PS and SP especially) out. As he hasn't been with TC very much he hasn't noticed PS being hella active in that thread, and SP's always around so I can't really say anything there.
I understand IRL things. I just got done doing a musical and school will be starting soon- yes, activity's going to drop, but I'm still going to try to remain active. I think that's all that's being asked, really, other than not having a little hideyhole. xD
Also this thread WAS made past midnight for Al. ._. That... might have something to do with it's creation really. xD
However I DO think that the thread was less to call you guys out and more to alert everyone that the RPU's dying, and we REALLY need to band together to keep it afloat, yo.
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Post by Prime Spinosaur on Aug 4, 2012 10:46:23 GMT -8
When you're very first statement addresses HWYCA, I'm pretty sure that you mean something by it. What exactly do you want us to do? We don't have enough members to make every thread active. And dying? No, just no. The RPU is more active than it's ever been right now. For some reason, people seem to think that HWYCA is a fucking army that's big enough to throw down against Persians. There aren't that many people. Everyone who's been able to post in other threads have.
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Post by Darth Pichu on Aug 4, 2012 10:48:50 GMT -8
We're... really not as active as it seems. We're dying too. It's not just you it's the whole board.
Active members on HWYCA are as follows: Myself Prime Spinosaur Anya the Purple Corte Maverikdemon Samedi Bluedemonhybrid Wolf Blood Rei
Prime, Corte, and Anya already post a lot. And as I said, Maverik isn't active a lot because he's kind of.. in the military right now, and Rei is ultra active on a bunch of other forums. I'm going to try to post more I just.. don't know what else we're supposed to do.
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Post by Penny Royals on Aug 4, 2012 11:04:04 GMT -8
Okay. So I'm starting to think that this may really have something to do with time differences- as well as misunderstanding.
I do think most of the misunderstanding and time differences are a few of ours' faults. As you know a few of us were back from the last two forums and thus the last two RPUs, so we were used to heavy clique-iness as well as the board being utterly, unimaginitively huge and active. And so, coming back to... well deadman's land, has been quite a stretch of the mind for some of us to handle. I do find it odd that it hasn't really come to Al since he's been here since the beginning- but then again he has a lot of us oldbies next to him.
I think, sadly, it just came about as HWYCA as being a sort of a hitch ._. As it's the biggest thread, everyone immediately thought you guys must be extremely cliquey, withdrawn, etc., especially with gaining more members from old!TS back, when it actually ISN'T that way as all the active members ARE posting elsewhere.
As I said, I have a feeling the majority of this spun out of control from time dissonance and misunderstandings on us non-ers here's parts. I'm sorry for all of us, by the way.
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Post by Alastor on Aug 4, 2012 14:42:30 GMT -8
Okay, okay. I'm stepping back in on this. Penny explained my core argument already, but I figured I might as well address a few points on my own.. As a peace offering (and because I love plugging this shit), enjoy a song of my people good humor.First, getting this out of the way: I have no idea what the fuck this has to do with anything, but it was pretty funny. No, actually. While it seems like this, it's actually me trying to get the few of you not active out side of the thread to... well, get out of the thread when you can, and start interacting with the others. As I've stated multiple times in the past, I understand you have games that are your 'babies'/high priority and that you have lives outside of the RPU. This doesn't mean I won't be asking people to interact with others, even if it's not in any games. ... What? How is me asking the few of you in a small hiding hole to interact with the others persecution? I'm... genuinely trying to see the logic in that. Persecution would've been locking the thread outright and HWYCA hasn't been active, true, which is something of a mixed blessing- on one hand, other games have been growing, on the other, it seems like I forced you to stop. That... doesn't mean I'm not going to ask that the ones still only in the thread to interact with the others. That second one is sound kinda silly, honestly, when it's literally just the timing of this and nothing more. Well, that's not the thing. My problem is that a few of you are staying in the thread and nothing else- I see no games or, hell, posts outside of the game. THAT is something I feel should be discussed- not that we're a small board- that's a given, considering this site is based around Twilight hate, and has always been a small board. That, well, some people aren't doing anything else with the users. That's what bugs me. ...because I was addressing the very few players who never leave the game. I have no problem with the game or the players as a whole. Hell, I'm happy that you guys have a successful game that's lasted years and that you're having fun with it. ...But I'm not happy when people are accusing me of persecuting them, as well as saying I'm forcing them into doing things. I'm literally just asking that you interact with the others more- while I'd prefer it as an RP or something, something like just shooting the shit in the RPU Pub is fine too. Nothing more, nothing less. The board is small, even more than it was normally. It genuinely needs people to be willing to communicate with each other to even survive. That's the biggest problem- we've misunderstood each other, which led to a clash when the older members started trickling back in (as well as me finally doing my job) and felt you were... well, withdrawn. Which isn't true, but given time zones and such, made it look like that. So... really, this entire thing is a lack of understanding each other. Can we try to fix that? (Also, Prime, the only reason EVA hasn't started is that I'm waiting to see if it'll get more players before it starts up. Sorry about that, man.)
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Post by Brandon Skyblade on Aug 4, 2012 16:23:13 GMT -8
Pardon me for possibly commenting where it isn't my business (especially after being not active for so long, but Pichu was right about the reason why).
Honestly, I have trouble believing the "not forcing others" thing when you make comments like:
Why ELSE would you say this similar point over and over? Why call HWYCA a "hiding hole?" Nobody's hiding here.
Some people have lives, some people have other interests (and have already said their piece about not being interested). I, for one, am personally glad that I see a couple more RP's besides HWYCA going on. Why suggest the ones who post in HWYCA join RP's that some people have clearly stated they're not interested in?
I'm not saying you're trying to force them, but you could honestly word your statements a bit better. Like I said, that "hiding hole" thing might've been a bit out of line as it really didn't help your case.
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Post by Alastor on Aug 4, 2012 18:06:11 GMT -8
I'm not forcing them to join games- while I'd like that, yes, I'm more interested in them interact with users in general. As I've stated plenty of times, I understand if you're busy, I understand if you're not interested in games here, I understand if you've moved on- I understand all of that.
What I don't understand is how I'm 'persecuting' the people not trying to interact with other users, even outside of the actual RPs. That's what bugs me. And hiding hole was a figure of speech- I'm referring to how a handful of users just... staying in one thread.
Might I remind all of you that as the area's moderator, I'm supposed to keep the area from drying up? Which is... pretty much my job, and really the only reason I log on to this site anymore. So naturally, I'm going to make board-wide discussions like this- I'd rather have the entire board weigh in on a subject than just decide on my own. Since we're still a recovering board, I'm going to ask why a handful of members aren't really being social- I would've done this to any member doing this.
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Post by lovely corte on Aug 4, 2012 18:25:04 GMT -8
Guys, guys.
Chillax, cuz. dun worreh.
Think of us like a nutsack during puberty. We start off, small, round, close knit.
But then the teenage years come, and the pubes, and we start to grow. We develop sexually, and we branch out.
What I'm trying to say is, look to your dick. The answer lies there.
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Post by Alastor on Aug 4, 2012 18:32:50 GMT -8
Guys, guys. Chillax, cuz. dun worreh. Okay, I can get behind this... Think of us like a nutsack during puberty. We start off, small, round, close knit. But then the teenage years come, and the pubes, and we start to grow. We develop sexually, and we branch out. What I'm trying to say is, look to your dick. The answer lies there. ...Okay, I chuckled, but I'm gonna say that this... isn't the time for dick jokes, man. While the thought of humor to defuse the situation is a good one, it's... not the time for it right now.
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Post by lovely corte on Aug 4, 2012 18:50:42 GMT -8
Dick jokes are always the right time.
But fo real, mah african american friends.
We really need to stop complaining about this. It's not helping that both sides are getting a bit defensive. What we really need to do, is just stick to the RPs' we have. Right. Now.
Triumph City, HWYCARPU, War of Farndis, the Greek mythology one. They're all doing alright. There are several RPs' I'm looking forward to that are going to be set up pretty soon, (hinthint prime spinosaur nexura wars hinthint) and we can handle it then.
Honestly, this forum, not just the RPU, is pretty quiet. Be grateful, actually. I think we have the most active sub-forum on this forum, and we're the most likely to stay alive. We might be small, but we run in circles, and that usually turns into us going off into other RPs.
Sure, not every RP is going to make it. Some don't fit people's tastes, or are a bit confusing. Like I didn't really get a hold of Triumph City into JW sorta' planned it out and explained it, and then I got into it.
TL:DR Dick Jokes Eternal, There is nothing going wrong.
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Post by Anya the Purple on Aug 4, 2012 19:27:11 GMT -8
*Pokes head in and hopes not to get shot*
Um, guys? I don't want to be all in your face or anything, but do you think we could all just calm down a little bit? I mean, everyone's talking about cohesiveness and working together and stuff, but at the same time, everyone's kind of being, you know, really defensive. Except maybe Corte.
Speaking of which, I think I'm kind of on Corte's side here. Things seem to be doing well. The games we have up are being posted in - and that means all of them, not just HWYCA - and there seem to be a few more on the way. Personally, I'm not entirely comfortable getting involved in many more games. I'm in a few RP's on other sites, and school's coming up, and there I go being all defensive right after being all preachy about not being all defensive.
But the point is, I think Penny and Corte are right. The majority of the RPU at this point is involved in every or nearly every game that's currently up, and with a small community like this - we have, what, ten people total? - I don't think we can support many more games than we've got going. I know I wasn't around in the good old days, and to people who were it probably seems like we're struggling to survive, but considering the number of people in the community total (both inside and outside HWYCA), we're doing remarkably well, I think. And if the issue is how small we are, we should be looking for reinforcements from outside the board, not squabbling amongst ourselves.
It seems that the biggest issue, at least from Al's perspective, is a lack of interaction. Again, most of the board is involved in almost every RP. As for those who aren't, well, most of them (as it's been stated) aren't particularly active in general. Maybe some people just have specific interests. I mean, maybe some of us are more social than others, but in general, the group as a whole interacts a lot. In fact, since the last board discussion, it's grown quite a bit (as in actually having non-HWYCA threads, and therefore the people who aren't involved in HWYCA now use this board).
So I think I'll just duck back out of the thread now and hope nobody gets mad at me.
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Post by lovely corte on Aug 4, 2012 19:32:46 GMT -8
FOR FUCK SAKE, ANYA>
OH MY GAWD.
HOW DARE YOU.
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
YOU MAKE ME FUCKING SICK TO MY STOMACHS!
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Post by Penny Royals on Aug 4, 2012 19:45:34 GMT -8
^YOU HAVE MULTIPLE STOMACHS? KILL THE DEMON
On another note... I JUST WANNA BAKE A CAKE FULL OF RAINBOWS AND SMILES AND WE'D ALL EAT IT AND WE'D ALL BE HAPPY LIKE WE WERE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. ;~;
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Post by lovely corte on Aug 4, 2012 19:49:24 GMT -8
You ever wonder what it would be like if you could wrap yourself up like a baby, in a nice warm cuddly sheet made out of foreskins, and then throw yourself into a cave, with a trampoline at the end.
And then when you bounce back up, all this period blood sprays around you and It's like you've just given birth to yourself.
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