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Post by valkyria on Oct 27, 2014 14:25:18 GMT -8
I personally think Renesme is just another Mary-Sue, what do you think? She's got super-powers since birth and never ages.
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Post by arcanius on Oct 29, 2014 10:42:39 GMT -8
No, I'd rather she's a creepy hellspawn abomination, that is intended to look cute and "supahspeshul" and not so much to be a mary sue, rather than to support Bella's Sue-ness by saying "Hey look - her kid is so awesome and perfect!"
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Post by valkyria on Oct 29, 2014 12:48:42 GMT -8
No, I'd rather she's a creepy hellspawn abomination, that is intended to look cute and "supahspeshul" and not so much to be a mary sue, rather than to support Bella's Sue-ness by saying "Hey look - her kid is so awesome and perfect!" All the traits of a Mary-Sue.
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Post by arcanius on Oct 29, 2014 23:25:41 GMT -8
Uh... No, the Sue would be the thing you would like to be. For example, Slaanesh is a divine entity that represents the concepts of art, perfection, pleasure, art, and beauty - who wouldn't want to be extremely beautiful no matter what standarts they are judged by, have divine power, all pleasures possible or impossible in reality, the most magnificent of art and represent the very idea of perfection right? Well its not really a Sue since... You really can't imagine yourself being Slaanesh for a number of reasons(Well, that and Slaanesh is actualy well written). I don't think people can think that they could be Renesmee
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Post by annoyed on Oct 30, 2014 11:26:01 GMT -8
The story doesn't focus on Renesthing either, she only appears at the very end
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Post by Penny Royals on Oct 30, 2014 14:56:44 GMT -8
The way I identify a Mary Sue is through a certain checkpoint system...
-Does everyone want to be them? -Would other characters be completely helpless without them? -Does everything they do work out in their favor? -Do things revolve around them when in all honesty they shouldn't, even with them as the main character?
If the answer is yes to all, then they're probably a Mary Sue. Traits certainly help this along. Thanks to this checklist I consider Reneesme less a Mary Sue, more a Mary Sue's plaything.
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Post by arcanius on Oct 31, 2014 3:44:51 GMT -8
^ You deserve a Chaos Gold Star! That is the very first list of checkpoints that I think would be helpful to find a Sue in every situation
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