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Post by stormcat on Nov 18, 2011 18:51:04 GMT -8
Fight scenes are extremely difficult, at least for me, because you have no visuals to go by. So, This thread is to help out people who have reached this difficult part.
I start us off with this simple request:
In my writing, a girl becomes stalked and is given a collection of knives to help defend herself. The only familiarity I have with knife work is to cutting up food for cooking. Can I get some help?
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Post by Demeter on Nov 18, 2011 19:57:48 GMT -8
She could swipe at the guy? I guess it would depend on how well she can handle the knives -- is she given brief "stab them with the pointy end" instructions, or does she learn how to use them (ex: where to stab, how to hold the knife, etc.)?
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Post by MeghanJH on Nov 18, 2011 20:52:03 GMT -8
This guy also has about 4-5 other videos that deal with defending yourself with a knife. Hopefully these will help you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2011 19:02:46 GMT -8
Are you going for Rule of Cool, or something more realistic?
For the former, just do what you think is cool, yet still believable to most audiences (like how most sword fights are in movies). For the latter, then watch the video that the above poster embedded.
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Post by stormcat on Nov 19, 2011 19:18:38 GMT -8
Are you going for Rule of Cool, or something more realistic? For the former, just do what you think is cool, yet still believable to most audiences (like how most sword fights are in movies). For the latter, then watch the video that the above poster embedded. Well, the girl gets a short dagger, too small for sword fighting. And also, her stalker eventually comes at her... packing heat. Any advice on how to escape bullets other than "Run and hide" ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2011 20:02:02 GMT -8
I know that she has a different weapon, I was just using swordfighting as an example.
And once again I have to ask, is this story supposed to be more grounded in reality, or will it be somewhat over-the-top?
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Post by stormcat on Nov 19, 2011 20:18:30 GMT -8
I know that she has a different weapon, I was just using swordfighting as an example. And once again I have to ask, is this story supposed to be more grounded in reality, or will it be somewhat over-the-top? Realistic, most definitely. |
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Post by MeghanJH on Nov 20, 2011 4:19:37 GMT -8
I know that she has a different weapon, I was just using swordfighting as an example. And once again I have to ask, is this story supposed to be more grounded in reality, or will it be somewhat over-the-top? Realistic, most definitely. Check out the video I posted, the guy who did that has a video on how to defend yourself against a gun using a knife. |
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Post by WolfGod on Nov 20, 2011 13:55:01 GMT -8
Funny enough, defending yourself in hand-to-hand combat when your enemy draws a knife is a big part of Krav Maga. More research into the topic might be appropriate. Maybe even see if you can contact a Krav Maga instructor and ask him to share with you some tips and advice. The videos above might actually be Krav Maga. I don't know enough about the style to recognize it on sight.
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Post by Tim Willard on Nov 23, 2011 6:59:47 GMT -8
Also talk to guys in the Marine Corps, they still receive knife training. I don't know if the Army still does or not.
First rule of knife fighting: You ARE going to get cut.
Know this rule. Remember this rule. Live by this rule.
As for taking on a man with a firearm, there's a simple rule.
A man with a knife can beat a man with a firearm if the man with the firearm lets him get within reach.
Her best bet? Move in fast and hard, or get out of the way so he has to come to her.
If he comes around the corner, the best bet is the tried and true tactic of stepping up into him, putting the knife at an upward angle just under the sternum, then twisting.
Once she gets on him, don't have her stop. Have her keep stabbing the chest until he stops moving and shits himself. The knife, if serrated, can get hung up on the ribs. Don't have her do anything fancy. Spinning it, tossing it from hand to hand, all that stuff is bullshit.'
Feet shoulder width apart and slightly open front to back. One hand in a fist up by the chin, the other with the knife down by the sternum with the blade pointed downward.
Stab in the upper left of the chest in a downward motion, take him to the ground with you.
Finish him.
It's fairly easy.
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Post by Tim Willard on Nov 23, 2011 7:00:46 GMT -8
Oh, and contrary to popular belief, knife victims scream a LOT. They gush blood everywhere, and if it goes on long enough, they beg you to stop.
Don't have her let up. If she does, she's dead.
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Post by stormcat on Nov 23, 2011 9:12:25 GMT -8
Also talk to guys in the Marine Corps, they still receive knife training. I don't know if the Army still does or not. First rule of knife fighting: You ARE going to get cut. Know this rule. Remember this rule. Live by this rule. As for taking on a man with a firearm, there's a simple rule. A man with a knife can beat a man with a firearm if the man with the firearm lets him get within reach. Her best bet? Move in fast and hard, or get out of the way so he has to come to her. If he comes around the corner, the best bet is the tried and true tactic of stepping up into him, putting the knife at an upward angle just under the sternum, then twisting. Once she gets on him, don't have her stop. Have her keep stabbing the chest until he stops moving and shits himself. The knife, if serrated, can get hung up on the ribs. Don't have her do anything fancy. Spinning it, tossing it from hand to hand, all that stuff is bullshit.' Feet shoulder width apart and slightly open front to back. One hand in a fist up by the chin, the other with the knife down by the sternum with the blade pointed downward. Stab in the upper left of the chest in a downward motion, take him to the ground with you. Finish him. It's fairly easy. Ah, good to know. Now here's another segment for the same fight. An Unarmed man takes on the gunman. The Unarmed guy has absolutely no training in any sort of martial arts or self-defense. However, the gunman still has a knife imbedded in him from the female, she accidentally left it in there to try and run. Should the unarmed man try to grab the knife and do more damage, or just try to restrain the guy with the gun? |
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Post by EarthDragon88 on Dec 15, 2011 13:24:05 GMT -8
First off, you need to get a grasp of what the knife has stuck itself into, how long your gunman has to live depends on whether or not it has hit an organ, how deep it sank in. Loss of blood becomes fatal at the 2 litre mark (we have five in our body at any one time). If it hit a lung, blood would be flowing into it as well, and he'd be coughing it up as a result.
Either way, it might be of note to get the gun out of the guy's hand. Since it's the greater danger to the newcomer rather than the knife. Removing the knife is only going to kill the man faster since it's acting like a plug. And keeping the blood in.
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