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Post by Melon Collies [Mo] on Sept 9, 2011 14:04:45 GMT -8
Y'know, I think it's rather cute how my school district has plenty of anti-bullying campaigns, and at least tries to take the subject fo bullying and outcasting seriously, but the moment they pass rights to have gay-straight alliance groups, these fucking Mormon fundies lose their shit and are now trying to disband any non-school-based clubs (like the anime club, or Pokemon club, or the Buddy Club (kids helping special needs kids), thankfully the drama club and creative writing club are safe because there are classes in school for those) because it's so fucking wrong and so sacrilege they simply can't have it in the schools. God damn it, I hate where I live so much. So many conservative Mormon fundies it's almost scary. Yes, I'm planning to go to the next school board meeting to protest this. Because this is fucking STUPID.
So there goes my chance to visit an LGBT group to preserve my sanity. So... my shcool has a class exclusively for Mormons called Seminary (every high school in the district has it now apparently)... but we have no gay-straight alliance clubs. Let me repeat: WE AHVE SEMINARY FOR MORMONS, BUT NO GAY-STRAIGHT ALLIANCE CLUBS.
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I think I'll go pack my stuff and move to the west side of Washington. Because this shit is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Yes, I am extremely pissed off by this.
...Sorry, I had to let it out.
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Post by shiko on Sept 9, 2011 14:10:33 GMT -8
-Hugs- You still got us to talk too.
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Post by Melon Collies [Mo] on Sept 9, 2011 14:21:35 GMT -8
Thanks, Shiko. <3 You guys are awesome.
I really hope the board will come to their senses and people will get their shit together. Because there's even the very small risks that clubs in general will be disbanded. I'm not sure how they'd do that, as I do believe it's illegal to actually ban clubs from schools... but you never know.
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Post by Melon Collies [Mo] on Sept 10, 2011 7:18:31 GMT -8
K, so my mom is contacting the ACLU about the issue, and attending the school board meeting. It turns out, gay-straight alliances can't be legally denied, and since the crazy fundies can't legally deny the rights to these clubs, they're can celling out ALL other non-cirricular clubs just so they can't have LGBT clubs.
...Yes. These homophobic Mormon fundies are really that uptight about teh ebil gheys.
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Post by Anya the Purple on Sept 11, 2011 6:15:44 GMT -8
^Wow. That's really, REALLY stupid. *Hugs*
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Post by Philophobia on Sept 11, 2011 9:39:19 GMT -8
*super hug*
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Post by nchaos on Sept 11, 2011 9:54:53 GMT -8
Goddamn, Fluffy, that's awful. Whereabouts do you live that there's so many Mormons? And what the hell is with insane Mormons!? Did I somehow manage to meet the only cool one in history or something?
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Post by Melon Collies [Mo] on Sept 11, 2011 10:49:30 GMT -8
^I live in southeastern WA, which just so happens to be a rather conservative area of the Evergreen State. I have no idea-- I knwo plenty of decent, kind Mormons, but then there are more than enough batshit insane ones that it really makes me dislike the religion. :/
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Post by nchaos on Sept 11, 2011 10:53:12 GMT -8
I'm sorry, dude. That's just shitty as all shit. I couldn't imagine living in a hella conservative area. I'd probably get shot.
That's what I hear most everywhere, from most everyone. I've only met one Mormon (not counting the loonies that stop you on the street) and he's one of my best friends. I'm assuming he's just a crazy exception, though.
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Post by Animosity on Sept 12, 2011 19:10:28 GMT -8
Damn, hearing all this makes me feel really lucky to be in California. I MUST RANT. I'm taking psychology, and my textbook bugs me. In the one sentence mentioning bisexuality, it just pulled up that stupid, disproved study from half a decade ago basically saying there are no actual bisexual men. There's some little footnote about a statistic on asexuals, but that's it. And of course there's no mention of any other orientation. Plus no mention of transgendered people whatsoever. Frustrating, to say the least. On another note, I get so fucking dysphoric when anyone talks about female puberty and the effects of estrogen and shit like that. Ugh. I think it'd take a lot of weight off my back if I could tell someone I'm trans IRL, but there's no one I feel I can trust.
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Post by Captain Victoria on Sept 12, 2011 19:11:43 GMT -8
What year is your textbook from? Who published it, and who wrote it?
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Post by Darth Sariah on Sept 12, 2011 20:25:39 GMT -8
^I live in southeastern WA, which just so happens to be a rather conservative area of the Evergreen State. I have no idea-- I knwo plenty of decent, kind Mormons, but then there are more than enough batshit insane ones that it really makes me dislike the religion. :/ Might I advise against Texas? Southwest has hard Spanish Catholics and Northeast has white Prostetants. *I'mLookingAtYouGovernorPerry* >>
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Post by Philophobia on Sept 13, 2011 15:25:04 GMT -8
What year is your textbook from? Who published it, and who wrote it? I wonder if its the same textbook as mine.
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Post by Animosity on Sept 17, 2011 23:57:07 GMT -8
It's Psychology by David G. Myers, Eighth Edition, 2007. LOOK I FOUND MORE. Because there are no intersexed people. Oh, and there are only two genders. And your gender is always the same as your sex.
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Post by Philophobia on Sept 18, 2011 16:44:51 GMT -8
My book [Psychology: Concepts and Connections] barely talks about bisexuals; and doesn't mention transgender people.
The topic was rushed in my class, and the only thing I remember was a discussion for a slide on homosexuality and what causes it and some shit. That's all I remember on the topic. I don't remember anything on gender itself (I'm not sure if my memory's just bad or I've been sick and depressive as hell so I wasn't in class much).
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Post by annabellamy on Sept 25, 2011 5:49:15 GMT -8
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I'm pansexual.
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I may also be trans, but I don't know. I feel 'right' as a girl, but sometimes I just feel 'wrong', and then I dress like a man and it all feels 'okay'.
I've been dressing up like this since I was 13, and my male name is Xander Freestone-Bellamy. I couldn't do it properly in London, but now that I'm in Cambridge (cheap wig shops and charity shops FTW!) and a part of the LGBT society... I think I can do this better.
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Post by annaofcrazyland on Sept 25, 2011 5:57:41 GMT -8
... I'm pansexual. ... I may also be trans, but I don't know. I feel 'right' as a girl, but sometimes I just feel 'wrong', and then I dress like a man and it all feels 'okay'. I've been dressing up like this since I was 13, and my male name is Xander Freestone-Bellamy. I couldn't do it properly in London, but now that I'm in Cambridge (cheap wig shops and charity shops FTW!) and a part of the LGBT society... I think I can do this better. *hugs* I actually thought you were straight, Anna, but I'm guessing this was your coming out. ^^ Congrats! <3 As for the trans thing, sounds like you're genderqueer or a female crossdresser, but I obviously can't judge.
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Post by Philophobia on Sept 25, 2011 9:29:13 GMT -8
^ I second that.
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Post by annaofcrazyland on Sept 25, 2011 12:57:51 GMT -8
So... my friend Keisha just changed her Facebook profile to say "interested in men and women" and "in a relationship". I'm not entirely sure how to approach her about this. o.o Especially since I've seen straight girls do so as a joke, but Keisha doesn't seem like the type to do that, so I really think this is her coming out. But still... how to approach her about it?
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Post by aealo on Sept 29, 2011 0:39:44 GMT -8
If you're friends with her, you should be comfortable with just flat-out asking. I'm horrid at advice though, so I guess you don't have to listen to me.
Anyway, I have a question for you all: Have you ever been completely fucking confused as to what you are?
For this entire week I've been questioning myself. I'm not sure if I'm bisexual, pansexual, biromantic heterosexual, or even cisgendered. Maybe it's because my mother says that I "don't understand" or that this is just a "phase" so I'm starting to believe her. I don't know anymore.
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Post by nchaos on Sept 29, 2011 4:57:53 GMT -8
^ Most of my life, tbh. I went from straight, to bi, to 'lesbian' (I always still liked guys but got sick of people asking if they could watch/similar shit) to bi, to admitting I was trans, and eventually admitted/realized I was teh ghey.
And oddly enough, that last one was the hardest. It still messes with me, because I don't get it, I don't know why I've been lying to myself all along and all that shit.
Maybe its not so much a phase as it is a turning point kind of thing. That sounds like new-agey bullshit, but who the hell knows. Maybe you've just got a lot of shit going down that's messing with you, and your perception of you, and maybe everything else around you.
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Post by Demeter on Oct 2, 2011 13:00:10 GMT -8
So I told my cousin I'm asexual because she keeps wanting me to date people and I'm not really attracted to anyone, nor do I really want to have sex, and her reply was basically "cool lol i hope you get over it and get married and have kids so our kids can go on playdates lol."
Never mind that I don't want to have kids (and have told her that, repeatedly) or ever be pregnant, her whole attitude pisses me off. I mean, she has other cousins and friends who are straight, in relationships, and even married. Why shove all of this "lol babies!" shit onto me?
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Post by annabellamy on Oct 3, 2011 1:00:56 GMT -8
... I have a date. With a girl.
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She is also named Hannah.
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Post by annaofcrazyland on Oct 3, 2011 2:49:07 GMT -8
... I have a date. With a girl. ... She is also named Hannah. ... Wow, congratulations! ^^
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Post by Animosity on Oct 3, 2011 20:16:26 GMT -8
I have a question for all the trans people here. Am I the only one who gets horribly dysphoric whenever anyone discusses the biological differences between males and females? It just reminds me of how my body's still female and has estrogen and how I'll never be taken seriously as a guy and . . . ugh.
I actually forced myself to believe there were no natural biological differences between males and females until I was 13 because I was so in denial about my body.
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Post by nchaos on Oct 6, 2011 9:19:38 GMT -8
I've actually never had it come up in conversation. I'd probably just get pissed or something, though. I can entirely understand why you would get upset about it, though.
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Post by Philophobia on Oct 6, 2011 9:38:28 GMT -8
^^
The only time I get dysphoric now is when I get refered to by female pronouns (thanks mom) and the once in a blue moon things with school when it asks for my gender.
Physical dysphoria is pretty much gone for me. I have been binding for a while (if it's because of low physical dysphoria or how concerned I am about hurting myself I don't know anymore) and when the 'curse' comes around; I just get very depressive. I'm pretty much okay, until someone has to remind me I'm a "girl". Then the social dysphoria kicks in and it's a bitch.
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Post by DefyingLogic on Apr 20, 2012 20:04:00 GMT -8
So.....this thread is dead.....and has been.....but today is the national day of silence <.< if anyone is interested. I haven't spoken all day and I'm going out of my mind. I hope it helps get the message across.
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Post by shiko on Apr 21, 2012 12:55:57 GMT -8
So.....this thread is dead.....and has been.....but today is the national day of silence <.< if anyone is interested. I haven't spoken all day and I'm going out of my mind. I hope it helps get the message across.
I could never do it, too much of a talker but it's great you can.
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Post by writer wannabe on Apr 21, 2012 13:32:58 GMT -8
I've got a question for the people in this thread.
I have a friend who confided in me that she's thinking about becoming transgendered (yes, she does refer to herself as female now and I will gladly change the pronouns I use when/if the time comes). She's my best friend and I will support her in every decision she makes concerning her happiness. The only problem (and this is a problem with me and not her) is that a part of me is a little sad, cause I like her the way she is and believe she's fine as she is. I know that this sort of decision that she's going over is a lot more complex than either of us made it out in private conversation and in public and, in the end, this decision is hers and hers alone. So how do I deal with that one part of myself that doesn't want her to go through with this? I'm also a little scared that this part of my feelings over the issue makes me transphobic . . .
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