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Post by blenderbender on Mar 15, 2012 11:11:08 GMT -8
I want to see Dean and Leah sharing drinks now, and I know nothing about him.
Maybe Lincoln Burrows can join them.
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Post by SkeksisGirl on Mar 15, 2012 17:38:49 GMT -8
I want to see Dean and Leah sharing drinks now, and I know nothing about him. Maybe Lincoln Burrows can join them. Dean Winchester played by Jensen Ackles. ::Purrs.:: If you have Netflix, Supernatural is on instant. WATCH IT! As for the Winchesters and Leah. Yeah there's an argument for both... What about Cas and Leah?
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 15, 2012 21:05:42 GMT -8
^Cas and Leah? If you think about it, they're both part of a "hive". Maybe not necessarily a hive mind, but one where they are about at the bottom ring of their respective hierarchies having to follow orders from complete jerkasses who really don't give a damn about the people they're supposed to be looking out for. They both had to deal with conflicting loyalties, even though it was for different reasons, since Cas ditched his side because he liked Dean more and Leah ditched her because she hated being under Sam more. Both understand the feeling of being considered a liability for their respective sides--angels took Cas in for "reprimand" when he tried to warn Dean of the truth and Leah was told off for telling the truth and/or making a clear point. Both truly began to grow as people when they made their life-altering choices. Also, a major thing and not many writers touch on with Leah but is clear with Cas--questioning their trust in their father and what they have known. Cas wanted to find God and began to question his belief in him at a couple points in series. Leah is still getting over her father's death, but there still has to be that question somewhere in there about just how much he knew and why he didn't tell Leah what was going on. We don't know anything about Harry, so we can't say that he knew about any of the legends or whether he told Leah any of it or whether he even supported her at all or if he just told her to get over it like everyone else did. Some portray Harry as a complete dick, but a good number have him try to support her where he can while still avoiding giving her answers she desperately needed.
Oh. Here's a major meeting point: both have felt completely lost. He's an angel cut off from his family. She's the ONLY female wolf in the all-boys' club. Both are ostracized by their kind for a time. Both turn against their respective original groups--only where Cas did it for Dean and what was right, Leah did it for Seth. And maybe to get back at Sam.
I think there are some things they have in common. And potential romanticism aside, I have a few images in my head of Leah helping Cas adjust to Earth the way we don't get nearly enough scenes of the brothers doing.
Cas: What is this?
Dean: Heaven!
Sam: It's called "pie", Cas.
Cas: ...Is it safe?
Leah: I may not be the expert on muffin-baking that Emily is, but surprisingly enough, I'm actually the only one out of the two of us that can bake a pie.
Sam: Not that any of the "boys" would believe it.
Dean: That just means less for them! Another plate? Hey! Where'd it go?
Cas: *Looking at empty pie pan* Interesting. And you say there are more kinds?
Or
Sam U: Leah! You can't have three guys hanging out at your place! It's indecent! Plus you're putting us at risk and--
Leah: *Sigh*
Cas: It is normal for one's former betrothed to be controlling her life after he has left her for her cousin?
Leah: No.
Sam U: *Puffs up* Who the hell do you think you are?
Cas: *Blinks* An angel of the Lord.
Sam U: You think you're smart, huh, wise guy?
Cas: *Blinks* No. There is still a lot that I do not understand. Like why it is that you still fantasize about Leah if it is her cousin that you left her for, or why you think that your choice to betray her for her cousin is God's will.
Sam U: WHY YOU--! *Attempts to punch him but disappears*
Leah: *Blinks* What did you do to him?
Cas: I merely sent him away to a place where he may calm down.
Leah: WHERE?
Cas: I was led to believe that a cornfield was appropriate.
Leah: DAMMIT, DEAN! I thought I TOLD you not to let him watch anymore Twilight Zone!
Or
Leah: Cas, people drink to get drunk.
Cas: I do not understand the purpose of this. The drink is bitter, it impedes one's mental abilities, and excessive use can lead to memory loss.
Leah: That's the whole point.
Cas: But what would you want to put yourself through this to forget?
Leah: Shut up and drink your beer!
Cas: *Blinks and takes a sip of beer*
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Post by Anya the Purple on Mar 15, 2012 21:21:05 GMT -8
Haven't seen Supernatural, though I've wanted to for a while. I always had this fic floating around in the back of my mind about Leah running away and joining the Scoobies, then having a very Tara-esque confrontation scene with the pack. Also I would not be averse to shipping her with Anya. But I ship EVERYONE with Anya. Actually, I think reading this fic might have contributed to that.
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Post by blenderbender on Mar 16, 2012 18:17:16 GMT -8
Well I now need to see Supernatural. It's on my list, but first I need to watch Prison Break, nd mom is still bugging me to watch Glee season 2 with her. ...This may take a while.
I love your little scenes CN. ^.^
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Post by SkeksisGirl on Mar 16, 2012 23:09:49 GMT -8
^Cas and Leah? If you think about it, they're both part of a "hive". Maybe not necessarily a hive mind, but one where they are about at the bottom ring of their respective hierarchies having to follow orders from complete jerkasses who really don't give a damn about the people they're supposed to be looking out for. They both had to deal with conflicting loyalties, even though it was for different reasons, since Cas ditched his side because he liked Dean more and Leah ditched her because she hated being under Sam more. Both understand the feeling of being considered a liability for their respective sides--angels took Cas in for "reprimand" when he tried to warn Dean of the truth and Leah was told off for telling the truth and/or making a clear point. Both truly began to grow as people when they made their life-altering choices. Also, a major thing and not many writers touch on with Leah but is clear with Cas--questioning their trust in their father and what they have known. Cas wanted to find God and began to question his belief in him at a couple points in series. Leah is still getting over her father's death, but there still has to be that question somewhere in there about just how much he knew and why he didn't tell Leah what was going on. We don't know anything about Harry, so we can't say that he knew about any of the legends or whether he told Leah any of it or whether he even supported her at all or if he just told her to get over it like everyone else did. Some portray Harry as a complete dick, but a good number have him try to support her where he can while still avoiding giving her answers she desperately needed. Oh. Here's a major meeting point: both have felt completely lost. He's an angel cut off from his family. She's the ONLY female wolf in the all-boys' club. Both are ostracized by their kind for a time. Both turn against their respective original groups--only where Cas did it for Dean and what was right, Leah did it for Seth. And maybe to get back at Sam. I think there are some things they have in common. And potential romanticism aside, I have a few images in my head of Leah helping Cas adjust to Earth the way we don't get nearly enough scenes of the brothers doing. Cas: What is this? Dean: Heaven! Sam: It's called "pie", Cas. Cas: ...Is it safe? Leah: I may not be the expert on muffin-baking that Emily is, but surprisingly enough, I'm actually the only one out of the two of us that can bake a pie. Sam: Not that any of the "boys" would believe it. Dean: That just means less for them! Another plate? Hey! Where'd it go? Cas: *Looking at empty pie pan* Interesting. And you say there are more kinds? Or Sam U: Leah! You can't have three guys hanging out at your place! It's indecent! Plus you're putting us at risk and-- Leah: *Sigh* Cas: It is normal for one's former betrothed to be controlling her life after he has left her for her cousin? Leah: No. Sam U: *Puffs up* Who the hell do you think you are? Cas: *Blinks* An angel of the Lord. Sam U: You think you're smart, huh, wise guy? Cas: *Blinks* No. There is still a lot that I do not understand. Like why it is that you still fantasize about Leah if it is her cousin that you left her for, or why you think that your choice to betray her for her cousin is God's will. Sam U: WHY YOU--! *Attempts to punch him but disappears* Leah: *Blinks* What did you do to him? Cas: I merely sent him away to a place where he may calm down. Leah: WHERE? Cas: I was led to believe that a cornfield was appropriate. Leah: DAMMIT, DEAN! I thought I TOLD you not to let him watch anymore Twilight Zone! Or Leah: Cas, people drink to get drunk. Cas: I do not understand the purpose of this. The drink is bitter, it impedes one's mental abilities, and excessive use can lead to memory loss. Leah: That's the whole point. Cas: But what would you want to put yourself through this to forget? Leah: Shut up and drink your beer! Cas: *Blinks and takes a sip of beer*
Why aren't we making these into fanfics? We NEED TO DO THESE FANFICS!
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Post by bluedemonhybrid on Mar 16, 2012 23:14:59 GMT -8
Agreed, Skeks.
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Post by Lady of Himring on Mar 18, 2012 6:51:05 GMT -8
Agree, those fanfics need to happen.
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Post by SkeksisGirl on Mar 18, 2012 8:04:01 GMT -8
Who wants to help me write them? ::Stares at Chaotic.::
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 18, 2012 9:14:30 GMT -8
I think I've just been volunteered for something...either that, or Edward is stalking me. Heh, of course I'll help. It's simply to awesome an idea NOT to do.
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Post by SkeksisGirl on Mar 18, 2012 9:34:56 GMT -8
You have AIM, MSN, YIM? ::Grins tail wagging.:: We can talk this over IMs and stuffs.
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 18, 2012 11:49:05 GMT -8
Sure do. Got all three, though I rarely use the MSN one. Though just to give fair warning, if I suddenly go offline or disappear without notice, it's because my internet is crap and probably kicked me off randomly.
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Post by blenderbender on Mar 18, 2012 17:36:07 GMT -8
I'll help out too if you guys want.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2012 22:29:01 GMT -8
I really am starting to ship Leah/Cas now. Wedding Crashers was awesome.
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 19, 2012 10:21:18 GMT -8
^I know, right? When people were going at Sam W about Leah "using" him to get back at Sam U, I half imagined him replying: "No, actually, she's with the angel." Then I saw the epilogue and I was RIGHT! XD blenderbender: You know me. I need all the help I can get.
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Post by SkeksisGirl on Mar 19, 2012 10:45:14 GMT -8
Link to Wedding Crashers PLEASE?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 14:30:45 GMT -8
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Post by bluedemonhybrid on Mar 19, 2012 18:48:31 GMT -8
Patronum, you rock! I'll read it right now. Meantime, you get karma.
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Post by Lady Phoenix on Mar 19, 2012 21:15:30 GMT -8
I would like to request that you all please take your fan fiction idea to the Private Messages, or make a Discussion of this in the Twilight Fan Fiction board. You've guys kinda went off-topic for about a page of this.
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Post by blenderbender on Mar 20, 2012 13:09:25 GMT -8
*Sighs* I am now shipping Leah/Cas and I don't even know who Cas is. For once, CN, you got me into a weird situation!
On another (more on topic) note, I actually think Leah has a shot at leaving. Jacob never forbade her from leaving did he?
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Post by writer wannabe on Mar 20, 2012 13:48:12 GMT -8
On another (more on topic) note, I actually think Leah has a shot at leaving. Jacob never forbade her from leaving did he? Not that I recall. It might turn out something like Wedding Crashers and she leaves on her own only to be ordered back occasionally since Jacob is still her alpha and can order her around.
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 20, 2012 16:07:40 GMT -8
*Sighs* I am now shipping Leah/Cas and I don't even know who Cas is. For once, CN, you got me into a weird situation! On another (more on topic) note, I actually think Leah has a shot at leaving. Jacob never forbade her from leaving did he? It's nice to not be on the receiving end for once. ;D On that note, I don't see why she wouldn't leave. Hell, probably half the reason she's been so pissed off is that not only did Sam and Emily betray her, but she's having to watch them be sickeningly sappy and happy and "in love" without facing any repercussions of their actions. Granted, Leah may actually NOT want them to suffer for what they did, but having to watch them act this way--and especially having to see Sam's thoughts about it--don't exactly make moving on easy. The simple act of joining Jacob's pack (however undeserving the bastard is) did wonders for her attitude. Sure, she was still a bitch, but she was a bitch in DEFENSE of people now.
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Post by Anya the Purple on Mar 20, 2012 16:48:37 GMT -8
I dunno. I always figured she stayed because of Seth. I don't remember BD that well, but if he's as much of an ass as people say he is, she's really got no reason to stick around.
Which brings up an interesting question: If Leah leaves the pack, will she still be able to hear the others' thoughts when she phases?
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 20, 2012 18:36:55 GMT -8
From what I could make out, only Jacob was truly able to leave because he was the "true alpha". So he left by taking that alpha status. Afterwards, everyone was free to choose who to follow, but it seemed that there was no third option for the rest of them because leaving would technically make them alphas by default.
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Post by circledaybreak on Mar 20, 2012 21:30:38 GMT -8
I don't know, I always got the impression that any one of them could leave they just didn't realize it until Jacob managed a split. Leah stated that she stopped hearing the pack's thoughts when she left, and that was before Jacob really accepted her into his new pack. I'm going mostly from the movie since I haven't read Breaking Dawn in a while, but that's what it seemed like.
From what I know of real wolf packs any of the pack could split ties and become loners or make their own packs. It's usually a male that challenges the alpha I think, but I'd like to think that the Twilight wolves have SOME way to refuse drinking the alpha's koolaid, or once again Meyer has managed to put the most frustrating/creepy spin on a cool idea by raping all the characters she doesn't care about of choice.
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 21, 2012 18:09:39 GMT -8
^But that info comes through research, and it's not like Meyer actually does research or anything--that would require effort, and heaven knows she can't be bothered with that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 18:49:29 GMT -8
You know, I always thought that Leah being the beta would put her in an interesting, yet tragic position. When you think about it, there's a good chance that Jacob will end up leaving the pack. Why? Renesmee. What if she doesn't want to live on the Reservation? She's going to be the most spoiled hybrid in the entire universe - I don't see going from a pristine white house with everything she could possibly have to being chained to the Reservation as something that would appeal to her.
Even if the Cullens eventually bolt from Forks when she's of age and hand over the house to her, she will still be tied to the Reservation. What if she doesn't want Jake to be in the pack? What if she wants to go elsewhere? He will have no choice but to come with her. Theoretically, Jacob eventually quitting the pack for good is a very real option for him, because there's a spoiled hybrid vampire pulling his strings.
This leaves Leah as the alpha. Granted, she'll have the freedom to break up the pack if she so pleased, but pressure in the tribe would push her to not do so. So she'd be stuck on the Reservation. While she'd be the alpha, she'd also be stuck once again with hearing Sam's thoughts. To quote TV Tropes, Leah has a very real chance of being "blessed with suck" if she ever lands in the position of Alpha. And it could happen. Jacob said himself that he's not the babysitter of his pack.
Granted, you can go many routes with fanfiction on this. I personally prefer the route that has her moving out to Alaska with Jake and the Cullens and using it as a springboard to work her way into a nice and satisfying life with a nice job and a hot boyfriend. No exposure to Sam and Emily and nasty sexist wolves for her. ;D
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Post by Anya the Purple on Mar 21, 2012 20:46:26 GMT -8
^Huh. That is an interesting idea. Of course, if Jacob quit, her "pack" would be, like, Seth. And that's it. I think.
But what if she did get other members? Suppose a few other wolves joined her and eventually they did have the strength to stand up to the other pack? And then they went around being like a group of badass vampire-hunting werewolves who actually hunt vampires? That would be AWESOME!
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Post by blenderbender on Mar 23, 2012 16:00:49 GMT -8
^Quil and Embry evantually joined Jacob's pack, according to the wiki. I love the idea of Leah whipping the boys into shape though, and being a badass vampire hunting team. And rubbing it in Sam's face, of course. ^.^
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Post by Chaotic Neutral on Mar 27, 2012 12:17:48 GMT -8
^You know she could. Even if she was bitchy while doing it, she did have some good points. She was the one who noted that they never completely rejected killing Bella, and honestly, if she threw her lot in with the enemy, that does make her collateral damage. Even ignoring my own personal dislike for Bella, realistically speaking, Leah had a good point on that one. Bella knew about the treaty, knew she was breaking it when she was letting Edward and the Cullens kill her, and honestly, didn't give a damn. She chose to have it done anyway, even knowing that the wolves would be obligated to react and that her decision would likely cause a war. And the only reason they don't is because Jacob has a personal connection to Bella (or so he thinks) and threw a hissy fit. Nobody notices that Leah had a very real point. She was just told to stop being "cruel", completely ignoring that not everyone really cares about Bella the way Jacob does.
Honestly, why is it that every authoritative body always falls short? The wolves are supposed to protect people and stop the vampires from harming anyone, and they don't. The Volturri are supposed to keep the vampires secret and destroy any who would put them at risk, and they don't.
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