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Post by stormcat on Jan 29, 2013 18:39:17 GMT -8
Suppose an area has sustained a fire and it burned away all plant life. It has temperate climate and does not usually have any sort of extreme weather. 19 years after the fire, what sort of plants would be growing in this area?
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Post by reynard on Jan 29, 2013 18:51:06 GMT -8
We're presuming that the fire burned the roots in the topsoil, correct? Environmentally speaking, fire can be used in some ecosystems to stop the progression of an ecosystem from one type to another, like an area one filled with shrubs progressing to larger plants. So right off the bat I would think the first thing that would grow back would be the smaller grasses and shrubs, if it had to start over completely. But 19 years is a long time...
And then there are some plants that require fire to grow. There are trees in my state of Florida, pines if I remember right, that need regular burning to clear out other plants, germinate their seeds, and revitalize the soil.
It might work out better if you could identify the type of environment that's been burned down.
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Post by stormcat on Jan 29, 2013 18:59:42 GMT -8
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Post by reynard on Jan 29, 2013 20:00:33 GMT -8
Okay then. If we presume that the fire you are talking about burns down to the topsoil and the roots, then the plant life would take a while to grow back. Now the little article you showed me said that the area you're basing this on is predominantly made of pine trees.
Now if the pines were burned to the roots, there are certain factors that would determine whether or not you would see those trees back in 19 years. One, are all the pine trees in the area burning down, or just a large patch? If not all of them are gone, then maybe some birds or other animals could drop the seeds back in the recovering area. That's not factoring in human intervention of course.
Now if these are the types of pines that actually like fire, then maybe not all of them would be gone, and you could definitely count on them being around 19 years later. Of course I think even fire resistant pines can die if the fire is too intense.
Another factor is other forms of plant life. With the trees gone, other plants could potentially move into the space and take it over. Of course if the fire is as bad as you imply, the invaders would have a rough time of it, but you get the idea.
Also, it doesn't seem like the soil itself would burn up in that type of place. Sometimes soil fires can take the soil with it, like in my state. Of course my state has lots of peat soil, and peat is just waterlogged organic material, so that stuff is easily combustible. But in a drier place, I don't see that happening. Now the soil getting washed or blown away without any anchors in place? That's possible.
Does that help at all?
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Post by stormcat on Jan 29, 2013 22:51:10 GMT -8
Okay then. If we presume that the fire you are talking about burns down to the topsoil and the roots, then the plant life would take a while to grow back. Now the little article you showed me said that the area you're basing this on is predominantly made of pine trees. Now if the pines were burned to the roots, there are certain factors that would determine whether or not you would see those trees back in 19 years. One, are all the pine trees in the area burning down, or just a large patch? If not all of them are gone, then maybe some birds or other animals could drop the seeds back in the recovering area. That's not factoring in human intervention of course. Now if these are the types of pines that actually like fire, then maybe not all of them would be gone, and you could definitely count on them being around 19 years later. Of course I think even fire resistant pines can die if the fire is too intense. Another factor is other forms of plant life. With the trees gone, other plants could potentially move into the space and take it over. Of course if the fire is as bad as you imply, the invaders would have a rough time of it, but you get the idea. Also, it doesn't seem like the soil itself would burn up in that type of place. Sometimes soil fires can take the soil with it, like in my state. Of course my state has lots of peat soil, and peat is just waterlogged organic material, so that stuff is easily combustible. But in a drier place, I don't see that happening. Now the soil getting washed or blown away without any anchors in place? That's possible. Does that help at all? 0_0 that's a little more complicated than I thought. I just wanted to get an estimate on the plant growth after 19 years. I need not worry about specific pine trees. If you must know, yes, the dirt is still there, it did not burn up.
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Post by reynard on Jan 30, 2013 5:21:08 GMT -8
^Oh. Well, I would think that would depend on the specific plants and their particular growth rate. Some plants grow slowly, and some grow very fast. For example, bamboo holds the growth record at one foot a day (and for that matter, kudzu also grows that fast, unfortunately). To play it safe, I guess you could go for moderate to a bit more than moderate growth. I know it's been 19 years, but like I said, play it safe. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. Botany isn't exactly my strongest subject.
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Post by makoeyes on Jan 31, 2013 14:20:54 GMT -8
In fantasy, branches of magic will often be called "Necromancy, pyromancy" and the like. "Mancy" means "prophecy," so a more appropriate suffix word be "urgy" which means "work." But would "necrourgy", "hydrourgy", and the like be grammatically correct? What about "necro-urgy"?
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Post by reynard on Jan 31, 2013 15:39:34 GMT -8
I have to say, "necrourgy" and "hydrourgy" sound strange at the very least. Are you sure you need to change the word? I did a quick search and it seems the necromancy was the term used to originally describe raising the dead, primarily for seeking the future, hence "mancy", and nowadays it's just used for general manipulation of the dead. So I don't really see a problem using "necromancy".
As for other words, maybe you could use "kinesis" instead. Like pyrokinesis, the ability to manipulate fire. Technically that's used to describe a psychic ability and not a strict magical art, but the wording is certainly a better match, and doesn't sound so odd.
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Post by Darth Sariah on Feb 1, 2013 20:35:48 GMT -8
In fantasy, branches of magic will often be called "Necromancy, pyromancy" and the like. "Mancy" means "prophecy," so a more appropriate suffix word be "urgy" which means "work." But would "necrourgy", "hydrourgy", and the like be grammatically correct? What about "necro-urgy"? Not entirely correct. Mancy is defined as 'the divination of' which itself is "The practice of seeking knowledge of the unknown by supernatural means" that is not restricted to time as "Prophecy" is. Necromancy is then by definition "Seeking the knowledge of the dead by supernatural means." It's not a stretch to think that one could apply this meaning to natural elements as well. Pyromancy is then "Seeking the knowledge of fire by supernatural means". I would assume that would include the ability to manipulate it AKA Pyrokinesis (moving fire). Urgy is a tricky one to place because it implies the process of working with a specific thing and is not often used in modern language. Metallurgy is "The process to work metal". Although this sounds correct it does not necessarily mean to work it with supernatural means. Metallurgy is physical manipulation of metal and therefor the -urgy suffix usually means "to work" through physical means. That is why people prefer mancy to urgy when talking about magic. "Mancy" is the pursuit of knowledge of something through supernatural means. "Urgy" is the manipulation (working) of something by physical means. By attaining the knowledge of a thing and understanding its true nature, it can be manipulated by supernatural means AKA magic. That's my take on it anyways.
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Post by makoeyes on Feb 2, 2013 11:04:52 GMT -8
I have to say, "necrourgy" and "hydrourgy" sound strange at the very least. Are you sure you need to change the word? I did a quick search and it seems the necromancy was the term used to originally describe raising the dead, primarily for seeking the future, hence "mancy", and nowadays it's just used for general manipulation of the dead. So I don't really see a problem using "necromancy". As for other words, maybe you could use "kinesis" instead. Like pyrokinesis, the ability to manipulate fire. Technically that's used to describe a psychic ability and not a strict magical art, but the wording is certainly a better match, and doesn't sound so odd. You're right, it really doesn't roll off the tongue as well as "mancy" does.
And I was already planning to use "whateverkinesis" for my sci-fi series (with psychic powers instead of magic), but "kinesis" does show up occasionally in my fantasy series, though it's not in the sense of control aspects of reality like in my sci-fi work.In fantasy, branches of magic will often be called "Necromancy, pyromancy" and the like. "Mancy" means "prophecy," so a more appropriate suffix word be "urgy" which means "work." But would "necrourgy", "hydrourgy", and the like be grammatically correct? What about "necro-urgy"? Not entirely correct. Mancy is defined as 'the divination of' which itself is "The practice of seeking knowledge of the unknown by supernatural means" that is not restricted to time as "Prophecy" is. Necromancy is then by definition "Seeking the knowledge of the dead by supernatural means." It's not a stretch to think that one could apply this meaning to natural elements as well. Pyromancy is then "Seeking the knowledge of fire by supernatural means". I would assume that would include the ability to manipulate it AKA Pyrokinesis (moving fire). Urgy is a tricky one to place because it implies the process of working with a specific thing and is not often used in modern language. Metallurgy is "The process to work metal". Although this sounds correct it does not necessarily mean to work it with supernatural means. Metallurgy is physical manipulation of metal and therefor the -urgy suffix usually means "to work" through physical means. That is why people prefer mancy to urgy when talking about magic. "Mancy" is the pursuit of knowledge of something through supernatural means. "Urgy" is the manipulation (working) of something by physical means. By attaining the knowledge of a thing and understanding its true nature, it can be manipulated by supernatural means AKA magic. That's my take on it anyways. Okay, I never thought about it like that. I guess was just trying to be more "correct" in my language uses, but this clears up my questions.
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Post by makoeyes on Apr 17, 2013 23:03:04 GMT -8
Apologies for the double post here.
I'm trying to decide the population for the vampires and mages in my universe. Vampires are composed of three sentient species, so they're more numerous than the mages. Most mages are witches, which are mages born with a full degree of mage powers. 25% of the mage population is made of wizards, who have minor talents but not a full range of mage power. Wizards use a different style of magic than mages.
At first I decided them to be somewhere around .2% of the world population, but whenever I did the math that seemed far to low. They're still supposed to be rare, but there's still more than 13,000,000 of them.
Also, this is more advice than research. I'm wondering what would be the line my anti-hero can't cross is. He's a rather vicious anti-hero, willing to torture, mind control, terrorize, bully, and in the case of mass-murdering rapist vampires, slaughter and enslave. However, he only does this to people thatt are so vile and horrible that a lot of readers will doubtless believe that they deserve it, and though he can be a jerk, he's not really horrible to people who aren't bad people.
Now, the line that I'm afraid of him not being able to cross is the massive slaughter of the aforementioned mass-murdering, mind-controlling, rapist vampires. The vast majority of vampires are unrepetent mass murderers, and often times rapist. Even most of the good ones aren't above occasional mind control. The vampires are currently warring against the mages, and vampires are, for the first time in recorded history, actually winning against the mages. The three vamp races have finally reconciled their differences and work together, and they've also allied themselves with demons. Vampires have started taking up wizard's power in blood magic and Necromancy (which is the only magical art they can become full wizards in), and have been training up other vampires as magicians* on a large scale. They've resorted to extremely dirty tactics, attacking civilian mages. It's eventually made clear that the vampires aren't just trying to conquer mages, but rather it's an extermination. They've also "come out of the coffin" to non-magical humans (the only magical people to do so), and that's just part of the attempts at world domination.
The anti-hero I was talking about kills a LOT of vampires. He dons a supervillain (or superhero, depending on how you view it) persona, and over a a three year period, slaughters over 200,000 vampires. He uses his mastery of Necromancy to enslave many vampires into killing more vampires for him. He only targets unrepent mass-murderers, mind-controllers and rapists, and he leaves behind clear evidence of the crimes that they are guilty of, and he alerts mage authorities so that they'll get their hands on this condemning evidence before the vampires can get rid of it. By his hand alone, hundreds of thousands of vampires are killed. It's outright stated by both good and bad guys to be genocide of the vampires, and the vampires later call it the single most devastating tragedy to ever befall their people. The story makes it clear that this is NOT acceptable behavior and that it's going too far for him to murder hundreds of thousands of them in cold blood.
Now my question is, is this crossing the line for an anti-hero? Is this a line he can't cross without becoming a despicable monster like the vampires himselves, and the audience will hate him for it?
*Magicians are beings who don't have what it takes to become a full mage, but have minor levels of magic powers, and are a huge step down from a true mage. ALL humans are capable of becoming magicians. Vampires can also become magicians as well.
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Post by Fiery Firefly on Apr 18, 2013 1:39:03 GMT -8
^ Personally I think this is some very gray area... and it all depends on how it is portrayed... does he indiscriminately kill any vampire he sees? The reason I ask is I doubt that if you do that, that every single vampire he kills would be horrible. Also keep in mind many real life genocides have had some excuse about the people being killed off in question "deserving it", so tread very carefully, with the whole "the vampires are assholes and kind of have it coming" thing. Like the way you said it made me a little uncomfortable (though I doubt you meant it that way)
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Post by makoeyes on Apr 19, 2013 16:16:36 GMT -8
^No, he doesn't indiscriminately kill any vampires, just the mass-murdering ones, which the majority of vampires are. However, he does say that he doesn't think of vampires as people, even the non-evil ones. It's not just a cold, calculated thing on his part. He has a personal vendetta against them. When he was 13 he rescued his sister from being raped and nearly murdered by vampires. That's when he took up Necromancy. He does have a way of telling which ones are evil. He either catches them in the act, probes their mind with telepathy, or if their telepathic defenses are stronger than his power, then he can use Necromancy to force them to telll him everything.
He is willing to entirely wipe out their species, if it means saving the world from their evil. Right now, he has no way to wipe out the entire species in one fell swoop, which is why the non-evil vampires are spared, but he found something out. The main species, the one most people think of when they hear "vampire", has a weakness in their Progenitor. You snuff out the "Sacred Core", they all die. He's willing to do this, but it never actually comes to that in the story.
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Post by stormcat on May 29, 2013 11:20:02 GMT -8
Is anyone still here?
if you are, do you know anything about martial arts? In particular, Martial arts with a weapon of some description?
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Post by makoeyes on May 29, 2013 18:09:07 GMT -8
There are a LOT of martial arts out there. EVERY part of the world has a martial art. But for right now, I'm going to talk about East Asian MA since that's what most people refer to when they use the term. If that's not what you want, just correct me. Kung-Fu, as well as the Taekwondo I got taught, takes a rather interesting view of weapons training, something I agree with. They say that it's important to build unarmed combat skills before actually picking up a weapon. Most of the kicks and punches can be used with a weapon. For example, the axe kick is whenever you bring up your leg and then bring it down hard on a target. Raising your sword above you and bringing it down is the same thing. My master even showed as the Katana version of every kick we suggested, even the most complicated ones. As for the MA with specific, traditional weapons, there's the 18 Arms of Wushu for Kung-Fu (Note that there's dozens of Kung-Fu styles. Kung-Fu is just a catch-all term for Chinese martial arts). The four major ones are the Dao, the Jiang, the Qiang, and the Gun. The Dao is the curved sword, also called a sabre or machete, or a broadsword. Zuko in Avatar uses these. It's thought the scimitars of the Middle East originated from the Dao. The Dao is called the General of All Weapons. It's mostly used for cutting, like all single-edged, curved blades. They are moderately effective for thrusting. Here's a video on Youtube of someone using it. It was popular among cavalry soldiers. The Jian is a straight sword, usually one-handed. The Green Destiny from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is an example of this. Sokka's black sword in Avatar is also an example. Both of these examples actually incorporate Chinese lore about the Jian. In China, there were legends about amazing blades made from the metals taken out of a comet, just like in CTHD and Avatar. The Jian, like all straight swords, is used mostly for thrusting. It is nicknamed the Gentleman of All Weapons. Tai Chi users practice with this weapon a lot, so it's sometimes called the Tai Chi Sword. Video of it being used. It does have a very noticeable wobble whenever the sword is of good quality and the user is good with it. Jet Li's Hero exaggerated this whenever it showed Flying Snow's sword wobbling considerably just from being dropped. The Jian is basically held with the same reverence and respect in China as the Katana is in Japan. The Qiang is a type of spear. It's used by Long Sky in Hero. It usually has a leaf-shaped blade that makes it so that it's probably one of the better spears to use for slashing, and a red horse-tail tassel. The tassel makes it harder for the opponent to keep track of the movement of the blade and helps stops the flow of blood from getting to the shaft. It's made from the very flexible wax wood, which means it's very "wobbly" when used properly, which makes the blade hard to follow, especially with the tassel. Qiang training is very good body conditioning, and it's one of the most commonly taught weapons in Kung-Fu. Xingyiquan and Bajiquan techniques often mimic spear techniques. Video. It is called the "King of All Weapon". The Gun is a staff (not to be confused with the metal wand type thing Muggles use to kill each other). Called the "Grandfather of All Weapons", because sticks and rocks are the oldest weapon ever used by humans. I haven't actually seen any work of fiction that uses it, at least not that I can remember. I actually don't know all that much about it (most of this stuff I typed out I already knew). Video. Note that while many East Asian MAs share certain similarities, like a focus on philosophy, using MA as LITTLE as possible, and inner power, the different MAs vary greatly, as well as the ones from different countries. Is that good, or should I stop?
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Post by Alastor on May 29, 2013 20:32:25 GMT -8
Hey, uh, anyone know a decent resource to learn a bit about how Medieval warfare was handled? I need a bit of reading to get a bit of a grip of how it was handled for Farndis.
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Post by makoeyes on May 29, 2013 20:44:07 GMT -8
I have no idea, honestly. Have you tried a little of Wikipedia. I know it's supposed be the bane of researchers everywhere, but they've cracked down a lot on sourcing things.
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Post by Alastor on May 29, 2013 20:55:29 GMT -8
Hm... No actually. I'll start there, then. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by Penny Royals on Jul 6, 2013 11:42:55 GMT -8
Weird question, but pressing nonetheless for a short story I'm writing: can kids get Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease? Or what are some terminal illnesses that affect kids?
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Post by annabellamy on Jul 7, 2013 12:23:40 GMT -8
Just about anyone can get it. (c/p-ed from the NHS website) There are four main types of CJD, which are described below. Sporadic CJD Sporadic CJD is the most common type of CJD. For reasons that are still unclear it appears that in cases of sporadic CJD a normal protein undergoes an abnormal change (mutation) and turns into a prion. Most cases of sporadic CJD occur in older adults aged between 45 and 75 years, with the average age being around 60-65 years. Despite being the most common type of CJD, sporadic CJD is still very rare, affecting only one in every million people in any given year in the UK. There were 74 deaths due to sporadic CJD in the UK during 2011. Variant CJD Variant CJD is caused by eating meat from a cow that has been infected with a similar prion disease called bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE, also known as mad cow disease). Since the link between variant CJD and BSE was discovered in 1996 there have been strict controls, that have proved extremely effective, to prevent meat from infected cattle from entering the food chain. However, the average time it takes for the symptoms of variant CJD to occur after initial infection (the incubation period) is still unclear. The incubation period could be very long in some people. So people who were exposed to infected meat before the food controls were introduced continue to develop variant CJD. There were five deaths due to variant CJD in the UK during 2011. Familial CJD Familial CJD is a rare genetic condition where the genes a person inherits from one of their parents cause a protein to mutate into a prion in later life, triggering the onset of symptoms of CJD. Most cases of familial CJD first develop in people who are in their early 50s. There were nine deaths due to familial CJD in the UK during 2011. Iatrogenic CJD Iatrogenic CJD is where the infection is spread from someone with CJD through medical or surgical treatment. For example, in the past a common cause of iatrogenic CJD was that a person was given growth hormone treatment with hormones extracted from somebody with CJD. Synthetic versions of growth hormones are now used so this is no longer a risk. Cases of iatrogenic CJD can also occur if instruments used during brain or nerve surgery are not properly cleaned between each surgical procedure. www.nhs.uk/conditions/Creutzfeldt-Jakob-disease/Pages/Introduction.aspx
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Post by Darth Sariah on Aug 12, 2013 20:17:39 GMT -8
Hey, uh, anyone know a decent resource to learn a bit about how Medieval warfare was handled? I need a bit of reading to get a bit of a grip of how it was handled for Farndis. Medieval warfare ya say? I assume you mean European tactics. what do you want to know specifically?
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Post by Alastor on Aug 12, 2013 20:22:02 GMT -8
Hey, uh, anyone know a decent resource to learn a bit about how Medieval warfare was handled? I need a bit of reading to get a bit of a grip of how it was handled for Farndis. Medieval warfare ya say? I assume you mean European tactics. what do you want to know specifically? Basically anything you got, honestly.
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Post by Darth Sariah on Aug 12, 2013 20:52:11 GMT -8
Medieval warfare ya say? I assume you mean European tactics. what do you want to know specifically? Basically anything you got, honestly. Well, do you have a specific scenario? Want to know about weapons, or tactics, or command structure, siege warm open war, i'm just asking because there is so much to cover and i dont have a lot of time to do it. Scenario and questions about it?
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Post by Alastor on Aug 12, 2013 21:37:58 GMT -8
Basically anything you got, honestly. Well, do you have a specific scenario? Want to know about weapons, or tactics, or command structure, siege warm open war, i'm just asking because there is so much to cover and i dont have a lot of time to do it. Scenario and questions about it? Ah, okay, my bad. My primary question is how tactics and open war work, and slightly rank structure.
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Post by Darth Sariah on Aug 16, 2013 17:58:45 GMT -8
To answer your original question I got a list off the local library for some books you could look into
Contamine, Philippe. War in the Middle Ages. Oxford: Basil Blackwell, 1984.
Creveld, Martin Van. Technology and War: From 2000 BC to present, 1989. France, John, Western Warfare in the Age of the Crusades, 1000–1300, London: Cornell University Press, ISBN 978-0-8014-8607-4
Keegan, John. The face of battle: a study of Agincourt, Waterloo, and the Somme. London: Barrie & Jenkins, 1988.
Keen, Maurice. Medieval Warfare: A History. Oxford University Press, 1999.
H. W. Koch: Medieval Warfare. Bison Books Limited, London, 1978, ISBN 978-0-86124-008-1 McNeill, William Hardy. The pursuit of power: technology, armed force, and society since A.D. 1000. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1982.
Oman, Charles William Chadwick. A history of the art of war in the Middle Ages. London: Greenhill Books; Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania: Stackpole Books, 1998.
De Re Militari: The Society for Medieval Military History
Kosztolnyik, Z.J. Hungary in the thirteenth century. New York: Columbia University Press: Stackpole Books, 1996.
Parker, Geoffrey. The Military Revolution: Military innovation and the Rise of The West, 1988.
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Post by Madame Celeste on Aug 31, 2013 20:35:22 GMT -8
When might be the most recent time/era when you might find a knight? (Not just in the honorific sense, but the sort of knight you'd expect from fairy tales and the like.) I ask because I'm writing a semi-serious parody in which young adult dragons are required to undergo a rite of passage that includes kidnapping a princess and slaying a knight in combat.
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Post by Darth Sariah on Oct 17, 2013 21:31:10 GMT -8
The first instance of a knight was found in the Greek tradition in the form of "Hippeus" (a class of person who owned a war horse used in service to the Athenian state) onward but what is considered the "modern" definition of knighthood (with skills in a multitude of disciplines and most importantly horseback riding in service to a monarch) is found in the 1300's during the hundred years war on both French and English sides. It is also around this age that knight lore is made especially the Arthurian legends from Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae (History of the Kings of Britain)and Chaucer's writings like The Knights Tale from The Canterbury Tales.
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Post by EquinoxSolstice92 on Nov 12, 2013 19:21:08 GMT -8
How do people in New Jersey talk and act like?
When does it snow there and is it cold in there?
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Post by Darth Sariah on Dec 20, 2013 21:44:49 GMT -8
Okay, I'm writing horror. In particular I want a way to end Freddy Krueger forever and someone who will survive long enough to learn how. I was thinking Fatal Insomnia could keep my hero alive long enough since it ensures somebody cant enter the dream state but I'm not sure all the effects or how long someone with it can stay alive. Also, how would somebody eliminate a soul of a dream demon to ensure he doesn't come back again?
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Post by Alastor on Dec 21, 2013 3:42:37 GMT -8
Probably use the Necronomicon Ex Mortis, a la Freddy VS Jason VS Ash.
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